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'special' microphone cable...
« on: May 31, 2009, 04:27:29 AM »
Hello,

Does anybody know how/where to get the 'special' microphone cable that e.g. Sennheiser uses for their lapel mics?
It's really thin, flexible, very strong (has a separate steel wire) and is usually terminated in a small, expen$ive Lemo connector (mini-XLR-ish but smaller).
What is the brandname/type that I need to look for to get that cable?

And now that we're talking about Lemo as well: Does anybody know about a cheaper, but similar connector? It has to be small, locking and well made. Connector needs to carry about three wires.
A locking, angled mini-jack would do but where to get the plugs and chassis-sockets?

Tips are welcome!

Kind regards,
Udo

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Re: 'special' microphone cable...
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2009, 03:35:32 AM »
Can't you use any (not specific Sennheiser) thin and strong cable?
If so: does anybody here have the tip?

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Re: 'special' microphone cable...
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2009, 12:46:44 PM »
I will sell some of my stock cable for DIY people. Its $.35 per foot + shipping. For mogami 2 conductor + shield. I can also supply large spool quantities as well.

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Re: 'special' microphone cable...
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2009, 01:06:54 PM »
Chris, what's the Mogami part number on that cable you have?
I'd like to look at the specs.
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Re: 'special' microphone cable...
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2009, 01:55:05 PM »
Markertek carries Mogami 2697.

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Re: 'special' microphone cable...
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2009, 05:38:21 AM »
Markertek carries Mogami 2697.
This cable looks thin etc. Is it strong and does it sound OK? Then it might fit udovdh's requirements.

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Re: 'special' microphone cable...
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2009, 08:28:08 AM »
Markertek carries Mogami 2697.
This cable looks thin etc. Is it strong and does it sound OK? Then it might fit udovdh's requirements.

It doesn't have a steel drain wire, but the signal wires are interwound with plastic fibers so it remains quite flexible.  I wouldn't recommend running it along a floor where it would get stepped on though--it's a lapel cable.  Capacitance is rather high at 100pF/ft (from memory), so that's another reason not to use it for a long run.

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« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2009, 10:30:19 AM »
What lengths of this cable would you think are acceptable?

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Re: 'special' microphone cable...
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2009, 12:26:07 PM »
What lengths of this cable would you think are acceptable?


Electrically, 30 to 50ft given the high output impedance of many lapel-type mics.  Mechanically, 15 ft.  Longer than that means it's probably on the floor which I think is a bad idea.  It would be OK to go longer if it's hanging.

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Re: 'special' microphone cable...
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2009, 04:44:34 PM »
Here are some information on Mogami Cables:

http://www.mogamicable.com/Bulk/micr_cables/lavalier/lavalier.htm

http://www.mogami.com/e/cad/mic-cable.html

http://www.mogami.com/e/mit/distributors.pdf

For longer runs the W2901 seems to be a better choice.


Roger
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Re: 'special' microphone cable...
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2009, 04:55:54 PM »
Hello,

Does anybody know how/where to get the 'special' microphone cable that e.g. Sennheiser uses for their lapel mics?
It's really thin, flexible, very strong (has a separate steel wire) and is usually terminated in a small, expen$ive Lemo connector (mini-XLR-ish but smaller).
What is the brandname/type that I need to look for to get that cable?

And now that we're talking about Lemo as well: Does anybody know about a cheaper, but similar connector? It has to be small, locking and well made. Connector needs to carry about three wires.
A locking, angled mini-jack would do but where to get the plugs and chassis-sockets?

Tips are welcome!

Kind regards,
Udo


Hi Udo,
You can look for Neutrik's NanoCon http://www.neutrik.com/de/de/industry/204_1723120361/NanoCon%c2%ae_productlist.aspx or their new mini-XLR comming soon. I think they will be a lot cheaper than the Lemos or Fischer. Binder have some small size conneectors too.

Roger

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Re: 'special' microphone cable...
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2009, 11:21:02 PM »
Thanks for the Neutrik suggestion, very interesting.

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Re: 'special' microphone cable...
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2009, 01:38:57 AM »
Hi Udo,

Are you located in Europe? More information.


Sensible prices on Lemo connectors, http://www.distrelec.com

Neutrik/Rean Tiny-XLR, http://www.neutrik.com/re/en/audio/204_850870881/REAN_TINY_xlr_group.aspx



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Re: 'special' microphone cable...
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2009, 07:09:23 AM »
another cable suggestion is RamTek.  its very thin...very pliable.  good quality.
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Re: 'special' microphone cable...
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2009, 10:26:44 AM »
@ROger: thanks, but no suitable chassis mounts?
Will try the nanocon series for now.

 

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