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what should a new taper start with?
« on: April 08, 2004, 08:24:52 PM »
hey all
i am new here just wanted to know what you all think a new taper should start with?


THANKS

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Re:what should a new taper start with?
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2004, 08:27:12 PM »
are you just patching? if so, do you plan on buying a rig soon?

If you want a full rig what else are you running(external preamp? ad? mics?)?

How much do you want to spend?

we'll start with these ;D

There are a lot of options for almost every imagineable budget and purpose.  The more details you give the easier it will be for us to help!

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Re:what should a new taper start with?
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2004, 09:50:09 PM »
mics>shockmounts>t-bar>stand>mic cable>pre/ad>batt>interconnect>recording device>batt.  

just messing around.  big addiction you're about to take on.  $$ range, anywhere from $500>$10k when all is said and done.

brian should be chiming in any minute with a link to the archives.  read a little bit, see what's going on, figure your budget, look in yardsale to see how much used gear is selling for, then, hop in.  the water's fine ::)

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Re:what should a new taper start with?
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2004, 10:43:27 AM »
ok lets start with a good dat deck
whats do you all think is a good dat deck?

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Re:what should a new taper start with?
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2004, 10:48:58 AM »
ok lets start with a good dat deck
whats do you all think is a good dat deck?

Raphael

raphael, again, all of this depends on your budget.

good decks: sony d-8, tascam da-p1.  most commonly seen.  buy new or from a trusted member of this board.  i would not get from ebay unless you want to send it off to get checked/cleaned/calibrated.

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Re:what should a new taper start with?
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2004, 10:49:26 AM »
alright, here comes the fluffing!!!

go jb3, no transfers, 20 GB HD, get a converter box(hosa) and run a digital signal into the jb3 via optical cable, that setup will set ya back about 300, but you'll be setup for patching
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
Schoeps 250|0 KCY's (x2) ->
Naiant +60v|Low Noise PFA's (x2) ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby XLR's (x3) ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3

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Re:what should a new taper start with?
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2004, 11:48:07 AM »
alright, here comes the fluffing!!!

go jb3, no transfers, 20 GB HD, get a converter box(hosa) and run a digital signal into the jb3 via optical cable, that setup will set ya back about 300, but you'll be setup for patching

and, if you are not dead set on dat, do the above, i do

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Re:what should a new taper start with?
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2004, 12:19:03 PM »
there is no v4, HAHAHAHA

how do you know john;-)
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
Schoeps 250|0 KCY's (x2) ->
Naiant +60v|Low Noise PFA's (x2) ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby XLR's (x3) ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3

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Re:what should a new taper start with?
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2004, 12:36:02 PM »
there is no v4, HAHAHAHA

how do you know john;-)

i've got the inside track 8)  also, when i do release info, i can always say 'hey, there's no v4'

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Re:what should a new taper start with?
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2004, 12:42:26 PM »
arent they just skipping ahead to a v5???;-)

i heard it does 64 bit, 384 sampling, and it gives you head during the show;-)

also has a grace or apogee switch on it
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
Schoeps 250|0 KCY's (x2) ->
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DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby XLR's (x3) ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3

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Re:what should a new taper start with?
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2004, 02:42:01 PM »
sorry about that my budget is about a $1000
and what else can i get is
dat and what else?

p.s. sorry about all the dumb thing i'm asking ha ha

Raphael

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Re:what should a new taper start with?
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2004, 02:56:49 PM »
sorry about that my budget is about a $1000
and what else can i get is
dat and what else?

Raphael

raphael, a used dat is anywhere form $300-$800.  if you go the jb3 route, you could still swing some mics, batts, cables etc.  like i said, check out the yardsale, but stay away from the akg's at any cost ::)  j/k.  and, with jb3, you could patch for a while and save for your major purchases.

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Re:what should a new taper start with?
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2004, 09:39:45 PM »
alright, here comes the fluffing!!!

go jb3, no transfers, 20 GB HD, get a converter box(hosa) and run a digital signal into the jb3 via optical cable, that setup will set ya back about 300, but you'll be setup for patching

bean..do you like jb3's?  
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Re:what should a new taper start with?
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2004, 09:55:01 PM »
First, to see what additional gear you may want other than a DAT, check out the Newbie Central thread in the Archival Info forum.

Alright, about a grand.  Here's my take:

$ 450 | AKG 391s
$  50 | 15' cheapo mic cables
$ 300 | Edirol UA-5 w/ digi-mod
$  20 | optical cable
$ 160 | Nomad JB3
$  60 | Bogen mic stand
$  60 | shockmounts
-------------------------------
$1100 | TOTAL
[/size]Well...a little over budget.  :)  This gets you a great pair of starter mics, though you have several other options on mics, all less expensive:  Oktava MC012, AKG C1000S (not as good as the 393s, though, but a couple hundred cheaper), Superlux (sorry, don't know the model #s).  I'm sure there are others I'm missing.

The Oade-purchased digi-mod Edirol UA-5 can be upgraded in the future with one of the preamp mods offered by the Oade Bros, much improving the sound.  This pre/ADC will serve you well whichever set of mics to which you choose to upgrade in the future (if you get hooked like the rest of us!).

The NJB3 is, IMO, the way to go these days for recording 16-bit out of an external ADC.  And...there you go!

If you want to start out on a much smaller budget, swap the AKG 391s with AKG C1000S and the Edirol UA-5 with a Denecked AD-20.  That'll cut your costs by around ~$250-$300.
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Re:what should a new taper start with?
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2004, 10:05:22 PM »
thanks for all the help guys but what does  IMO mean

Raphael

 

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